On air UpTax Podcast Room
John Carter
CPA · Austin, Texas
Press play — energetic intro, then the conversation
AudioJ This is Jennifer from the UpTax Podcast Room, and today I've got John Carter with me. John Carter, so great to have you on. J Thanks for having me on the show, Jennifer. I'm excited to talk shop, honestly, because this past year has been a wild ride for my firm. J Well let's get into it. Tell our listeners a bit about your practice first. Where are you based, and what does the client load look like? J Sure. We're in Austin, Texas, mid-sized firm, and right now we're managing around 450 individual clients and about 80 business clients. So it's a real mix — 1040s, S-corps, partnerships, the whole spectrum. J That's a serious book of business. I imagine busy season is not exactly a walk in the park. J It's brutal, honestly. January through April used to feel like we were just surviving, not running a business. Late nights, staff burnout, clients calling asking where their return is. Classic story every CPA knows. J And that's really the core question for firms like yours, right? Once you hit a certain size, you've got to figure out how to scale the actual tax preparation work without just throwing more bodies at it. J Exactly. And that's the question that kept me up at night — do we build an offshore team ourselves, hire more staff domestically, or find another way to automate a CPA practice at this scale. J So walk me through it. What did building your own offshore team actually look like when you priced it out? J We looked hard at it. Recruiting overseas talent, training them on US tax law, managing time zones, quality control, turnover — it's a whole operation. We estimated close to six figures a year just to get a small offshore team functional, and that's before counting the management headache. J That's a huge lift for a firm your size. So how did UpTax change that equation for you? J Honestly, it flipped the whole model. With UpTax, the AI tax preparation engine drafts the return first — pulls in the documents, organizes the data, builds out the forms — and then there's an offshore review layer built right into the platform that checks the draft before it ever lands on my desk. J So you're not managing an offshore team yourself, you're just getting the benefit of one. J That's the best way to put it. I get the capacity of an offshore team without the overhead of actually building one. No recruiting, no training pipeline, no management layer. It's just there, working, every single day of busy season. J That's exactly how UpTax was designed to work — this is how UpTax supports CPA firms, giving you that extra layer without the operational lift of doing it in-house. J And that's the game-changer piece for me. I didn't have to hire an accountant, I didn't have to hire a bookkeeper, I didn't have to expand payroll at all. My existing team just reviews and finalizes instead of drafting from scratch. J So let's talk numbers, because I know our listeners love a real ROI story. What did Year One actually look like for you? J We tracked it closely. Our average return turnaround dropped by almost 40 percent. Staff overtime hours during busy season fell by more than half. And the cost of using UpTax was a fraction of what we priced out for tax preparation outsourcing overseas. J A fraction, really? J Truly. We were looking at six figures to stand up our own offshore shop. UpTax cost us a small monthly investment in comparison, and it scaled with our client volume instead of forcing us into a fixed cost structure. J That's the part people underestimate — the flexibility. You're not locked into a headcount you have to feed work to every season. J Right, and that flexibility is huge for a firm like mine. Some months we're heavy on individuals, some months it's business returns piling up. UpTax just flexes with whatever's coming through the door. J Walk me through what the actual day-to-day workflow looks like now, from client intake all the way to review. J So it starts with intake — client uploads documents, or we pull them in through the integrations. UpTax's AI tax engine reads the documents, categorizes everything, and starts building the draft return automatically. Then the offshore review team inside UpTax checks it for accuracy and flags anything unusual. J And then it comes to you and your staff. J Exactly. By the time it lands with one of my CPAs, it's already a clean, reviewed draft. They're not starting from a blank return, they're doing a final professional review and then we handle the actual filing decision ourselves, in-house. J That's such an important distinction — UpTax drafts and reviews, but the firm always stays in control of the final filing. J One hundred percent. That's what made me comfortable adopting it in the first place. I'm still the CPA of record, my team still signs off, but we're not drowning in manual data entry anymore. J So if another firm owner is listening right now, stuck in that same busy-season chaos, what would you tell them? J I'd tell them to seriously look at what it costs to automate your tax practice with UpTax versus what it costs to build offshore capacity from scratch. The math isn't close, honestly. And the time savings alone changed how my whole firm operates during tax season. J It really sounds like this gave you room to grow the practice too, not just survive busy season. J It did. We actually took on more business clients this year without adding staff, because the capacity was already there. That's the real unlock — growth without the hiring spiral. J John, this has been such a great, honest breakdown. I love hearing the real numbers behind the decision, not just the pitch. J Happy to share it. It's been a genuine game-changer for my firm, and I don't say that lightly as someone who was skeptical of AI tools at first. J That skepticism-to-believer journey is one we hear a lot, honestly. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing your story, John Carter. J Thanks again for having me, Jennifer. This was fun. J And to everyone listening, if you're a CPA or EA firm feeling that same busy-season crunch, go check out UpTax for yourself. Head to uptax.ai and book a demo today. See what AI tax preparation can do for your practice.